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IN SHIPPING Mohawks against the Indians, there were also PINEROLESE?

We are also Canadian, from Quebec to our valley is a fine line to be rediscovered

How to reconstruct the story - The shipment of pure colonial style in 1665 from La Rochelles - There are also Piedmont, Pinerolo was then under the dominion of the King of France - were part of the Carignan regiment sent by Emanuele Filiberto as a tribute to the French king - is there a list of participants and many names are common in Chisone and Pellice - 400 were in Canada and intermarried with French girls sent from Europe - Cold War and the source of a massacre: 250 deaths - the research continues, there are other supporting documents?


Second half of the seventeenth century. Pinerolo is a French fortress again, strongly supported an important stronghold from which to control and possibly intervene in Italian affairs. The terrible plague of L630, came as a result of the occupation troops and this had reduced to just over 1500 residents of the town, still conditions in the social and economic consequences of the various centers of the valleys and plains. On the other hand, the new rulers do little to uplift the conditions of the territory.

Pinerolo, formally still stays at the Savoy systems but it takes little to end up on the gallows with the charge of treason. Also in the valleys continued religious persecution against the Waldenses.

E 'but a bit' all over Europe to be crossed by political and economic instability, however, despite this or perhaps because of this preparation in full swing in several parts expeditions in search of new territories to colonize and on which establish and strengthen new shopping centers.

In fact the trade and the economy has propelled these initiatives, while not lacking at times or spirit of adventure or a far from ideal.

On this basis it is therefore inevitable in many cases that new scenarios become mirror-worlds of the old troubled Europe.

1665, the French port of La Rochelle. 1200 men on board nine vessels at a time of Quebec in Canada in order to go to defend a French settlement, founded sixty years earlier by some Jesuits and frequently attacked by "Indians" Mohawks, organized and a people with a culture very interesting member of the Iroquois nation.

is not one of the many shipments that history would perhaps soon forgotten, its effects and the unique source of participants (Savoy, Lorraine and Piedmont in particular) have in fact their weight in the political and social future of this region with surprising repercussions in the land of origin of those took part.

to propose anew the facts, emphasizing the historic and cultural, are two researchers from Turin: Gabriella Massa (originally Canadian) and Valeria Dotto. With the collaboration of several government institutions and cultural Italian, French and Canadian. In the latter country the story is the subject of studies and targeted research for some time, and thanks historiography on the gen. Amoretti and the prof. Bruno Villata Concordia University in Montreal who has studied and analyzed the names of the expedition members to try to fix the probable place of origin, as well as they reconstruct the story, you are right about this sottermate participation rather unusual numbers of youngsters Piedmont average age of under 30 [a good number of them originating in Pinerolo (city, valleys and plains)] and all members of the Regiment Carignan-Salieres that Emanuele Filiberto had sent as a contribution to the King of France, Louis XIV for the good successful enterprise.

Adventure Canadian soil, as emphasized by the diaries and reports of the soldiers immediately began between distress and suffering. Not cold, hunger, lack of clothing and inadequate clothing and inexperience of the commanders also put a strain on men and even refers to perceived supernatural events in these moments of despair. The following year, the experience and knowledge of guarantee that your stay is more acceptable from a military standpoint as well, thanks to the alliance with the Hurons, a people hostile to the Iroquois Indians, resulting in the achievement of objectives, namely the final seizure of the French, soon recognized by the British, all the land along the St. Lawrence, the river which connects Lake Ontario to the Atlantic Ocean. With the Indian people also begin to elapse the first negotiations on land issues and the fur trade.

The region to be protected and assisted in its development however needs to men, and who better than the participants have the skills to succeed in the new role of settler? The natural environment for more is not so different from the one left at home and the language is French, still some use in Piedmont. Of the 1200 men, excluding the 250 deaths and 550 who return home, 400 remain in Canada, encouraged by some facilities as well as the gift each of them an ox, a cow, a pair of pigs, a chicken and a chicken, two barrels of salted meat and some weapons.

also their desire to start a family-request was soon granted. In fact come from France a number of girls, mostly orphans or destitute and until then lived in boarding schools or in institutions funded by the King, each of which the King himself to this fate assigns a "substantial" dowry.

The meeting between the invited and the settlers is under the management of the Ursuline nuns, but is an issue that you look after you in a hurry not to mention that the men who do not sce! Gono no girl, lose the sum given as a pledge at the time of the request. The most sought after, as we read in the reports of the time, women are strong, considered more resistant to environmental conditions of the place, many of which will give luce.fino to 15 children.

This is how new villages, built on the principles and the memory of those left at home and ruled over the ancient customs. After a few years some farmer comes home with all the baggage of exotic experiences and the facts of the new world and soon to tell about these narratives are interwoven games, fantasies of the mind and dreams unfulfilled.

Those who remained in Canada are beginning to occupy seats in the meantime and growing role in the life of the various centers. Their land of origin is not forgotten, indeed, despite the passage of time memories fade, the ancient origin remains a strong cultural identity, as well as the subject of continuous discovery and interest.

Retrieved from research by PRIOLO

DIEGO ( The script was provided by the author and published in "the echo of Chisone" on 11 March 1993 - The map of Canada was taken out of the atlas Geographic (The Pocket - Vallardi, 1992)


Who left the Pinerolese for Canada?

shipment ex-Piedmont in 1665 of Canada know the names of all those who took part. Their identiflcazione especially in relation to place of origin, however, presents many difficulties mainly determined by the process of which touched francization time in almost all names with spelling variations and sometimes rather free and the fact that for some men of the expedition was recorded only their nickname and the name of war.

Starting from the work of some Pinerolo scholars on the origin of names of local families, such as Osvaldo Coisson Peter Caffaro and to name those who are most in-depth the issue, dall'onomastica of the most typical and common, said that the list that follows is not that a reading and an interpretation (no claims of accuracy or completeness and then identifying suggested) names of the participants (the vast majority of whom settled permanently in Canada) could be originating in our land - was identified some "feedback" - the following men

François de Cunque (Cucco, Chocus, Chucho, Coco registered in Pinerolo in 1351-1582), Olivier Morel (Morel, Morello), Michael Malet (Maletto), Paul de Morel, René Meunler (Meynler, Mainero, Chisone), Germain Gauthier (or nickname from Saint Germain, Gottero), Nicolas Guillaume (Wilhelm, Guglielmone many in Pragelato valley in the seventeenth century ), Gabriel Fournier (Fornero, Pinerolo and Valleys), Guillaume Richard (Alta Germanasca Pellice several possible derivations), Joachim Bernard, René Sauvageau (Salvagiotto, Salvai / y), Lavalle (Laval, La Valle), Pierre Morin ( Maurino), Jean Martinet (Martin. Martinat, Chisone, Val Germanasca), Sebastien Arnaud, Aubin Larnbert (High Chisone Pinerolo 1591), Pierre André Renaud (Reynaud, Rinaudo) François Féraud (aiutante dl campo), Du Prat (The Prato presente nel 1351 in Pinerolo Prato 1569), Honore Martel Pinerolo 1566, Julien Pierre (Giuliano Giuliani), Bernard Bertin, Hubert Grange (Gran Ghetto, Granger, Grançot). François Le Roux (Rosso), Olivier Jean (Oliviero, Olivero, 1566 Media Fall Chisone Pinerolo), Claude Pastourel (Pasturellus. Pinerolo 1351), Prince (princi, Pinerolo 1565), Sorel (Solera / o?, Pinerolo 1565), Jeana Robin (Rubinus?, Pinerolo 1351), Vignault (Vignolo?, Pinerolo), Etienne Boyer, Jean Berard (Val Pellice media Berardus 1351 in Pinerolo, Berardi 1589), Jean Boutin (Bottino?), Pierre Masson (Alta Val Chisone) Nicolas Bonnin (Prarostino, High Chisone), Laurent Bony (Bonis, S. Maurizio Pinerolo 1565), Jean Bouvet (Bovetti, Floating, Pinerolo 1565), Mathurin Colin (Colin, 1570 Pinerolo, hills?) , Louis Jean (Val Pellice, Pragelato Val), Claude Salver (Salvai / j / y, Pinerolo, 1588), Jean Collet (Luserna Nassfeld), Paul Perrot (Val Pragelato), Vincent Oly (Oliver, Olive, Pinerolo, 1565), René Merle (Merlo 1588), Nicolas Audet (Prarostino), François Audouin (Odin, Odin, Odin, Pinerolo 1565), Pierre Durand (Rora, Pinerolo), or the said Robert Louis Pommeraye, S. Germano, Pinerolo 1587), Marc Butina, Beaudoln (Badino? Pinerolo 1579, Baudino?), Christophe Fevrier (Ferrier?, Ferrero?), Vincent Basset (doctor), Basset Caramagna 1601, Renaud Chollet (Colet, Colletti), Antoine le Gros, Pierre Faye, Jacques de Moulin ( Molino?), Niger (Pinerolo, 1351), Coquin (Cucca, Cucchi, Pinerolo, 1565), Jean Jacquet de Gerlaise (Pinerolo Jachie 1351, Giacchetto?), Jaen Dominic (Dominic, Torre Pellice, Dominici 1572 Pinerolo), the Jacques Fontaine ( Average Chisone, Pinerolo), Jean Roussel (Rousset?, Rosselli?), Jean Guillet (Guigleti, Pinerolo 1351), the Abbé Pierre (Abba, Abbot?), Antoine Dubois (nickname Du Bois, De Forest 1600 Pinerolo , Boschi 1595), Courtois (Cortese, Pinerolo 1598), Petit (Petiti, Pinerolo 1584), Julien Allard (Alart, Alardi, 1567 Pinerolo), Forgue (Forgia?), Blaise Belleau (Bello?, 1581 Pinerolo, Belli?) Pierre Favreau (des Lauriers) (Favero, 1589 Pinerolo, Favaro?, Fabbro?), Nicolas Cocquet (Coc, Cochi 1588 Pinerolo), Jean Bellet (Belletto 1595), Duchesne, Pierre Barberin (Barbero 1575?, Barberis?, 1589 Pinerolo ), Pierre Quelin, Meynard (1590 Mainardo?) Mignier Andre, Luis Boulduc, Jena Baritault Louis, Beylet (Cumiana 1597), Trick (Trucco), Le Tellier ...

(Fonti di "Riscontro" P. Caffaro "Famiglie Pinerolesi" O. Coisson "The family names of the Waldensian Valleys").


revision date: 22/09/2003

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the roots of infantry - 1664

Louis XIV, the Sun King


The birth of the infantry (Piedmont-Savoy) goes back to last Duke of Savoy, Carlo Emanuele II, father of Vittorio Amedeo II. In 1664 the infantry regiments is in fact ordered over 6 national (1 Guards-1659, 2nd Savoy, Aosta 3 rd, 4 th Monferrato, Piemonte 5 th, 6 th Nice), which for now does not eliminate the personal regiments. The cousin, Emmanuel Filiberto, said Muto, the branch of Carignano, is the owner since 1644 of a regiment of infantry consists of more than a thousand men out of 12 companies. At that moment the Sun is King fighting in Canada on the Great Lakes an endless war against the Iroquois Indians and their British allies. It all began when Samuel of Champlain, in 1609, he met with the Iroquois in Ticonderoga at the head of an army of Hurons and Algonquins. The firearms of the French, at first, the Iroquois had good reason. The French did not we had with the Indians, unlike the colonies of New England, which proceeded to the indiscriminate extermination of the natives. He was born during that period said that "The good Indian is dead." only countries not to better treatment and more consideration the French were the Iroquois. That were part of the Iroquois League of Five Nations (Seneca, Cayuga, Onondaga, Oneida and Mohawk), which the Dutch had already bankrolled weapons. The organization of the league (federal) it was said by Benjamin Franklin as a model for the drafting of the U.S. Constitution after 150 animals. The Iroquois then attacked with the most bloodthirsty ferocity (torture, cannibalism, etc.), French Catholic missionaries and Huron Indians, with the sole aim of exterminating them and grab the exclusive trade of skins. I "coureurs des Bois" (raiders of the woods) French, who generally lived in camps in India, as they spread to the most distant tribes (Sioux) trade in leather and, wherever possible, to counter the Iroquois.

The Sun King was looking at all the European allies, men, mercenaries, to send in colonies in North America and the Savoy could not say no, providing the Carignan Regiment, their personal jewelry, already tested against the Turks the previous year. 1665, the French port of La Rochelle . 1200 men on board nine vessels at a time in Quebec to defend a French settlement, then settlement from 2000 men and 1200 women, founded sixty years earlier by some Jesuits and frequently attacked by the Mohawks. It is one of the many expeditions that the story would probably soon be forgotten, its effects and the unique source of participants (Savoy, Lorraine and above Pinerolo Piedmont, the French city) will in fact their influence on the future political and social organization of this region . Transfer to walk from the barracks of Val d'Isere was not painless. Throughout the journey, these men who were not of a saint shins, pillaged and took whatever they thought necessary. The journey by sea San Lorenzo took several months and were divided on arrival to take advantage of decent housing in Montreal and Richelieu Riviere. The arrival of a certain number of men had given birth to a second problem: the lack of women. The representatives of the clergy tolerated intermarriage with Indian, if not caused problems with the males (Indians), but for safety from France arrived in a short time "Le Fille du Roi" , widows, young people with no talent, ugly and worse ... It was established a prize to the achievement of the 12th son, land grants, money to build the house, an ox, a cow, a pair of pigs, a chicken and a chicken, two barrels of salted meat and some weapons.

This describes the first release of the winter Carignano . . Sure the temperature is well below zero. The snow is impalpable and penetrates into the skin like needles freezing fingers. The men walk with the snowshoes, which have provided the Hurons. The equipment is inadequate for the climate and the horses can not drag the guns. After 300 leagues come to Fort St. Louis, where we hope to find food and guides. None of this. We can not go further and then re-enter. Colonel Salière is with us, while the captain continues to Courcelle a Mohawk village, we have lost sixth man. On the morning of February 14 we arrived in sight of a village apparently inhabited only by women and children. It 's a trap: we are attacked by Indians who are not ours and we must defend ourselves. The arrival of a patrol of English, it can be to negotiate, to restore calm. Inform us that we have boundless and again after they leave us refreshed " There will be other less friendly sorties but also the Carignano is now hardened to the Indian war, hunting and dresses like them. The Iroquois cease to be a problem, but have not been defeated. The new governor, Frontenac has adopted a strategy to place themselves on the defensive during the summer months, when the British fleet to check the Great Lakes, and to attack the guerrillas in India during the winter months, when the St. Lawrence freezes. Of the 1200 men, excluding the 250 deaths and 550 who return home, 400 remain at the end of the countryside along the great river with their wives in war, always beautiful and young, but by now very familiar with musket. The Door Signs Nicolis, who returned, made his architect Guarini narrative and the stories came to decorate the Palazzo Carignano (see table)

This strategy continues to 7 years of war ( 1756-1763) that involves all the major European powers. Catholics saw the sides were allies against those Protestants, contending for power and succession Local (Austria and Prussia) or colonies in America and Asia (France, Spain and Britain). The scenery makes this war is for the battles in Europe and for those sea in a world war, fought there by English colonists and the French for the possession of Canada. In 1756 (the Seven Years War), the Marquis de Montcalm takes command of the French army: after a first victory at Fort Ticonderoga pardon the French Fort Duquesne and Louisbourg. Is the decisive battle of the Plains of Abraham (Quebec) in which they die is that the British General Wolfe Montcalm in 1759.

A large fresco of this period, with characters toned good to bad, I'll surely read in the Book of James Cooper Finemore to press in 1826 or saw in film "The Last of the Mohicans" . Cooper was inspired by the hunter to the character and deeds lonely Italian Giacomo Costantino Beltrami discoverer of the sources of the Marche Mississippi .

http://xoomer.virgilio.it/bandsabaude/ L ' army of Savoy until 1848

On the first floor windows of the Palazzo Carignano, the frieze depicting an Indian head of America: commemorating the victory of the French side in 1667.



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